Sarah Longwell

It doesn't worry me that much in the sense that the voters are given to the candidates.

The Democratic candidates like Tallarico and Cooper and Mary Patola, like they're putting up huge numbers, like way over their Republican counterparts.

And so there's an asymmetry that is on either side where –

The actual Democratic candidates are out raising their Republican counterparts, whereas the Republican infrastructure and the committees are out raising their Democratic counterparts.

And the PACs.

And the PACs, right?

So there's like tons of the big money coming in, whereas I think a lot of the big money on the left is, yeah, feeling burned and scared.

People don't want to put their names on FEC reports because Trump will go after them.

Like that is a real thing that is happening, which and that's why, look, I don't know how much money is going into C4s or stuff, but like that money might be evening out somewhere.

But there is a lot of chilling of civic participation via donation dollars because people are afraid of showing up on Donald Trump's radar.

Yeah.

And the DOJ is... So it worries me from that point of view.

And then it worries me, I think, from... I don't want to just crap on Ken Martin, but I do think that the DNC could stand to...

up its game a little bit.

Yeah, and for people who are like, oh, get money out of politics and stuff, I totally— We're there.

I hear you.

But as right now, right, when you have only so many metrics for things like money, especially to candidates, is a good metric for enthusiasm.

And so the idea that these Democratic candidates are outperforming on the money side is just a good metric for, I think, enthusiasm, especially in a midterm and not a presidential.

So this is – Marco Rubio is maybe the first candidate I've seen where like a meme seems to be springing to life.

Yes.