Sarah Longwell

And so the meme of Marco Rubio in the chair like this with the new job, whatever the job is, like is he the new coach of the Panthers?

Right.

Like every –

every garbage job that you can get it actually it is it is a funny joke but what it is showing people or I think what people are taking away from that is like there is one person in this administration who's not a total clown right like and so you got to give him all the jobs because he's the only actual serious person and then that's one piece of it and then another piece is they're kind of looking around and it's like JD Vance who people still will say is the heir apparent and like

Okay, yeah, you know, like J.D.

on the MAGA side.

Like, I don't really feel it.

He is, for me, in focus groups now, having done this long enough to see different candidates rise and fall, he's got total Ron DeSantis vibes from Republican voters.

The longer they look at him, the more they're like...

And it's like they want to like him or they want to do it.

But like he's not lighting anybody up and he's getting himself in a sour spot with those two groups I'm talking about that he thought he was going to be able to stand over both of them and bring them together.

And instead, he's sitting in the bad spot where Tucker's got this part marshaled over here and Rubio is starting to marshal the MAGA establishment over here.

And so that is just interesting to me.

It also doesn't help that Donald Trump walks around his, you know, the White House being like, who do you like better?

JD or Marco, you know?

He went to the UFC fight.

Vance went over and didn't get anywhere.

Probably smart politically.

I think and this is so look, I think that those two are an interesting contrast to me.

And I just I think for me, one of the reasons I'm so interested in hearing the strange new respect from Trump voters in the focus groups is I think I had long thought.