Sarah Longwell

And everybody's immediately like, wait a minute, I watched a mob.

Trumpers attack the Capitol and hit the police with flags and with bear spray and take their guns from them.

I mean, I know Michael Fanone very well at this point.

Like, they abused these cops and Trump pardoned all of them.

So we already know.

know you're lying about this.

This is just about whether or not you can execute the level of force you want against American citizens.

And I do think it's unlocking something slightly different in the public.

It's certainly unlocking something different in me.

Yeah, I think that's right.

I also think there's the—because, you know,

I have now been doing these focus groups for almost a decade, but at least eight years really in earnest as I watch the Trump administration unfold.

And it is people are always like, why isn't this the thing?

Why isn't the bottom falling out?

Why isn't this enough?

And.

You know, there's a bunch of reasons for that.

There's the hyperpolarization of it all.

There's the fact that Trump often moves from one catastrophe to another.

And so, like, by the time you're enraged about one catastrophe, like, you're on to the next thing, which is what is happening right now.