Sarah Marshall

But I didn't know that this was so regrettable and silly from the beginning, you know, because there are so many polar expeditions where you're like.

Yeah, that was like a reasonable premise to start with, and then things went horribly wrong.

But with this, you're like, why would you do any of that?

And putting others' lives on the line, which is always ideal.

Stevenson does not care about other people's lives.

That's clear.

Apparently, yeah.

Apparently.

You've made a very strong case.

yeah he also really loved the arctic like it's it's beautiful it's genuinely a spectacular place to be it's like apparently a classic thing for like men in new zealand to love shackleton which is you know my dad has always had a thing for shackleton so i grew up thinking that i don't know just that everyone's house had shackleton books and i realize we're talking about the antarctic with that one but

I think there is, like, I don't know, the whole Arctic Explorer thing, like, it does feel to me like there's so...

much of the best of humanity and that curiosity and then the worst of it.

And you know, this way that we turn nature into a canvas for our own hubris and, and then, you know, throw that out around in ways that destroys the lives of other people.

Um, but yeah, I don't, I, I will always, I think empathize with the urge to see those places.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Blair, this is crazy because I'm over six feet tall and I'm from Oregon.

And I'm a big guy.

I pick you.

No!