Sarah McBride

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567 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jun 2025 last heard Jun 2025

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You know, there is a big difference between banning trans young people from extracurricular programs consistent with their gender identity and recognizing that there is room for nuance in this conversation.
And I think the notion that we created this all-on or all-off
mentality, that you had to be perfect on trans rights across the board, use exactly the right language, and unless you do that, you're a bigot.
You're an enemy.
And when you create a binary all-on or all-off option for people, you're going to have a lot of imperfect allies who are going to inevitably choose the all-off option.
And what ends up happening is the left excommunicates, will excommunicate someone who not only, Seth voted against the ban,
On trans athletes.
But we would excommunicate someone who uses imperfect language.
Yes, look, again, not language I would use.
But we would excommunicate someone who's saying that there's nuance in this conversation and uses language that we don't approve of yet still votes the right way.
is exactly what's wrong with our approach.
And look, Seth's not going anywhere, but for a lot of everyday folks, if they think how Seth thinks, or if they think that there's room for nuance in this conversation and we tell them, you're a bigot, you're not welcomed here, you're not part of our coalition, we will not consider you an ally,
The right's done a very good job of saying, listen, you have violated the illiberalism of the left.
You have been cast aside for your common sense.
Welcome into our club.
And then human nature starts to be once you then get welcomed into that club, human nature is, well, I was with the Democratic Party on 90 percent of things, maybe against them on 10 percent of things or sort of in the middle on 10 percent.
Once you get welcomed into that other club,
human psychology is you start to adopt those positions.
And instead of being with us on 90% of things and against us on 10% of things, that person now welcomed into the far right club starts to be against us on 90% of things and with us on only 10% of things.
And I think that that dynamic is part of the regression that we have seen.
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