Sarah McCammon

I think some of that comes from the society and some of it does come from the family.

Don't go anywhere.

You know, and I think one of the stories we did recently is about the fact that there is sort of a growing conversation among more progressive people about like, well, how do we respond to this change?

And what does it say about society?

And what does it say about, you know, the way that parents are or are not supported?

Can I say something about that?

I think, I mean, I, I am a parent.

I have two children and

I think that this and I'm going to base this partly on conversations I've had with others, but also, frankly, my own life.

I think that the perception of that decision varies a lot depending on what community that you're in.

I grew up in a very traditional conservative Christian culture where it was expected to have children.

It was assumed.

And there was a lot of I don't remember anyone saying that you're selfish if you don't.

But it was just sort of seen as being part of.

what a woman would do would want to do being feminine being part of the community cooking or yeah going to church or anything else that you would you would just do yeah and and so like i always and it was also kind of put on a pedestal motherhood was like there you know it was um the women in my church who had lots of children some of them had one i think the largest family was 10

Mine was four.

They were kind of seen as especially sort of... It was like a real achievement.

It was maybe even sort of especially spiritual.

And I think that there is a correlation between sort of conservative communities, religious communities, and higher birth rates.

So I think some of it is based on the environment that you're existing in.