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Sarah Paine

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Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Okay.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And the whole thing becomes public in 1960 with anger all around.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And the two, Russia and China, squabbled incessantly over the Vietnam War.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And the North Vietnamese were interested in getting maximum aid for both, from both, which it did.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And they begged the Chinese to allow the Russians to ship things over land through China and

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So the Chinese felt obliged to do it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

But the terms of that overland trade were just a food for all kinds of squabbling.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

It just didn't end.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So the story of the reversal and the balance of power between Russia and China arose from multiple factors.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Doesn't happen all at once.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

It is both a story of China's rise and of Russia's decline.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And step one for China is getting its own atomic weapon.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

which it does in 1964 so that it can get itself free of Soviet bondage.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And so this is in 1964 after they've detonated that bomb where Mao goes, okay, there are too many places occupied by the Soviet Union.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

The Russians took everything they could.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

We have not yet presented an account for this list of stolen territory, all the territory I've shown you.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

We want it back.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Russians, jaw drops, panic.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And the Chinese then are much more aggressive.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

about what they consider to be their territorial rights.