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Sarah Paine

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And there is a border war over territories, and in particular, this one island, Jambower-Demanski Island in the Amur River.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

All right, here's how riverine borders work, international ones.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Under international law, the border is the Thalweg, which is the center of the main channel of whatever the river is.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And Russia had followed that with its European borders.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Not with China.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

It claimed both banks of the Amur.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Well, the Chinese are fed up with that, and they take Jambau Island.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And the Russians are furious, and they come to the United States, and they say, "'Would it be okay if we nuked these people?'

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And we're like, no.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So then the Russians scratch their head and they come back and they go, okay, would it be okay if we use conventional weapons to blow up their nuclear stuff?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And we go, no, still not okay.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And Mao gets it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

The one that wants to nuke you is your primary adversary.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So there's a reshuffling of the primary adversaries so that formerly the United States was a primary adversary of both China and Russia.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So that would be a reason for them to cooperate.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Well, now they're primary adversaries for each other and the United States can play the swing thing with all of this.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And for Russia, it's really devastating having China as an enemy because it's going to have to deploy mechanized nuclear-armed troops all along its really long Chinese border, Central Asia, the works.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And it's already doing this with its European borders and occupying Eastern Europe, which garrison costs are significant.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Imagine if this country had to put those kinds of forces on our long Canadian and Mexican borders.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

It'd be bankrupting, and their economy was and remains a fraction of ours.