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Sarah Paine

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

But this breaking up of the earlier version of the bromance allows the United States to play the swing role, and then we cooperate.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Both Nixon and Mao think ganging up on Russia would be a good thing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

and overextending Russia financially by overextending it militarily with all these armaments and things.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So in addition, what's going as part of the China's rise are internal reforms under Deng Xiaoping when he abandoned certain communist principles of economic management and gets much more productive agricultural sector and industry and commerce.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And so China's running double digit growth rates for about 20 years with significant compounding effects.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Okay, that's the story of China's rise.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Now for this dystopian alternate universe of Russian decline.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

You have pictured here on the left is Leonid Brezhnev, who apparently had a stroke in 1976 that permanently impaired his thinking, which his death in 1982 finished off.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And then...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

He was replaced by Yuri Andropov, whose own health was pretty parlous, and he dies within two years.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And then Konstantin Chernenko barely makes it a year before he's dead.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

I mean, it sort of sounds like us.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

But anyway, it doesn't work well.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So if you look at Soviet growth statistics, they're really good right after the end of World War II.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

They're busy rebuilding.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

But then when you get to the mid-70s, they're going into terminal decline.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So when Gorbachev comes to power in 1985, Soviet growth rates have been either 1% to 2% less than U.S.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

growth rates for the preceding decade.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And the compounding effects of that are pretty horrendous.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

In addition to other problems, Leonid Brezhnev was in power for 18 long years.