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Sarah Paine

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Sarah Paine: How Imperial Japan Defeated Tsarist Russia & Qing China

Industrial Revolution or the powers that have benefited from it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine: How Imperial Japan Defeated Tsarist Russia & Qing China

And it's watching its neighbor, China, being defeated twice in war.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine: How Imperial Japan Defeated Tsarist Russia & Qing China

And they're horrified, not just appalled.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine: How Imperial Japan Defeated Tsarist Russia & Qing China

And...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine: How Imperial Japan Defeated Tsarist Russia & Qing China

So they're looking at it and going, you know what, maybe we'll be next.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine: How Imperial Japan Defeated Tsarist Russia & Qing China

And they're right.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine: How Imperial Japan Defeated Tsarist Russia & Qing China

The United States does unto Japan what Britain and France did unto China.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine: How Imperial Japan Defeated Tsarist Russia & Qing China

What's that?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine: How Imperial Japan Defeated Tsarist Russia & Qing China

The treaty port system.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine: How Imperial Japan Defeated Tsarist Russia & Qing China

What it meant is that trade in Japan and China would take place in designated treaty ports.

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Sarah Paine: How Imperial Japan Defeated Tsarist Russia & Qing China

that the West would set tariffs on this trade and that Western citizens in China or Japan in these treaty ports would not be subjected to Chinese or Japanese law, but home country law.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine: How Imperial Japan Defeated Tsarist Russia & Qing China

And when Chinese and Japanese citizens were in Europe and the United States, they most certainly were not dealing with home country law.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine: How Imperial Japan Defeated Tsarist Russia & Qing China

They were dealing with U.S.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine: How Imperial Japan Defeated Tsarist Russia & Qing China

or Western law.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine: How Imperial Japan Defeated Tsarist Russia & Qing China

So it was not reciprocal in any way.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine: How Imperial Japan Defeated Tsarist Russia & Qing China

In addition, each one of these treaties had a most favored nation clause in it, which said the one who's negotiating this treaty, the most favored one, whatever they negotiate will be given to everybody else.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine: How Imperial Japan Defeated Tsarist Russia & Qing China

So it meant whatever one could negotiate accrued to them all.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine: How Imperial Japan Defeated Tsarist Russia & Qing China

It meant that China lost sovereignty and Japan lost their sovereignty when these treaties go in.

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Sarah Paine: How Imperial Japan Defeated Tsarist Russia & Qing China

And so the Japanese, unlike China, which fights war after war with these Westerners trying to defeat them militarily and it's unsuccessful, the Japanese say, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine: How Imperial Japan Defeated Tsarist Russia & Qing China

we're going to assess what the nature of the problem is.