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Sarah Paine

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So that would be a reason for them to cooperate.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Well, now they're primary adversaries for each other and the United States can play the swing thing with all of this.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And for Russia, it's really devastating having China as an enemy because it's going to have to deploy mechanized nuclear-armed troops all along its really long Chinese border, Central Asia, the works.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And it's already doing this with its European borders and occupying Eastern Europe, which garrison costs are significant.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Imagine if this country had to put those kinds of forces on our long Canadian and Mexican borders.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ How Russia sabotaged China's rise

It'd be bankrupting, and their economy was and remains a fraction of ours.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ How Russia sabotaged China's rise

But this breaking up of the earlier version of the bromance allows the United States to play the swing role, and then we cooperate.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Both Nixon and Mao think ganging up on Russia would be a good thing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ How Russia sabotaged China's rise

and overextending Russia financially by overextending it militarily with all these armaments and things.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So in addition, what's going as part of the China's rise are internal reforms under Deng Xiaoping when he abandoned certain communist principles of economic management and gets much more productive agricultural sector and industry and commerce.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And so China's running double digit growth rates for about 20 years with significant compounding effects.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Okay, that's the story of China's rise.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Now for this dystopian alternate universe of Russian decline.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ How Russia sabotaged China's rise

You have pictured here on the left is Leonid Brezhnev, who apparently had a stroke in 1976 that permanently impaired his thinking, which his death in 1982 finished off.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And then...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ How Russia sabotaged China's rise

He was replaced by Yuri Andropov, whose own health was pretty parlous, and he dies within two years.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And then Konstantin Chernenko barely makes it a year before he's dead.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ How Russia sabotaged China's rise

I mean, it sort of sounds like us.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ How Russia sabotaged China's rise

But anyway, it doesn't work well.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So if you look at Soviet growth statistics, they're really good right after the end of World War II.