Sarah Paine

productive base could do what it did.

Americans didn't even know.

Right.

So you tell me right now how the future is going to turn out.

This is where if you flip it, when you look at history, you think it had to turn out that way because you can reverse engineer something, at least a plausible story of why you wind up where you did.

And it may not even be the right story, but it yields the correct answer.

So you think you've got it.

But if you look at the future, how's this thing going to end with Xi Jinping and Putin?

We don't know.

And then afterwards you'll go, oh, well, something is profoundly stupid based on subsequent events, but we don't know now, right?

And it's because, oh, well, there's a Russian proverb, which is, which is someone else's mind, darkness, is that you ultimately don't know what other people are thinking.

You make your guesses, but then they do things differently.

Yeah, maybe we should continue investing it instead of canceling all the science research projects.

And what will be the long-term effects of doing this, right?

You're thinking about America's great strengths.

It's alliance system.

Our great strength also used to be being at the head of innovation.

So we're going to eliminate those things and think it's going to go well for us

They won't finish each other off.

They're too big to be finished off.