Sarah

Right. Just and honestly, like we've heard so many stories about Jason's past, including stories of manipulation like this one, identity theft and toxic behavior from former co-workers, friends. Yeah, it's just. Yeah. If you've been following the podcast, we've got something new for you. Now you can dive even deeper into each episode on our website, sequesteredpod.com.

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I guess what's so interesting about that is, zooming out real quick, I'd never been... on a jury before, I've never been a part of a courtroom proceeding. So not only was all of that new, just the process and the verbiage, and we were getting the hang of it over the course of the week, but by the time the state closed their case, we were still waiting for, okay, now it's the defense's turn.

I guess what's so interesting about that is, zooming out real quick, I'd never been... on a jury before, I've never been a part of a courtroom proceeding. So not only was all of that new, just the process and the verbiage, and we were getting the hang of it over the course of the week, but by the time the state closed their case, we were still waiting for, okay, now it's the defense's turn.

You've got to remain open the entire time going, okay, I'm collecting all of the facts that the state has the burden of proof. So we're going to collect all of their facts. And then now it's the defense's turn. And so I feel like I was waiting the whole week for, okay, now what do you guys have to say? And, you know, they had the three witnesses.

You've got to remain open the entire time going, okay, I'm collecting all of the facts that the state has the burden of proof. So we're going to collect all of their facts. And then now it's the defense's turn. And so I feel like I was waiting the whole week for, okay, now what do you guys have to say? And, you know, they had the three witnesses.

And in my opinion, all three of those witnesses only bolstered the state's case. Right. And I could see why they called each one of those witnesses, but it didn't help them in my opinion. And so... I think some character witnesses could have helped. I know one of the other jurors really wanted to hear from a psychologist. And we know that there was one that had been attempted to be called.

And in my opinion, all three of those witnesses only bolstered the state's case. Right. And I could see why they called each one of those witnesses, but it didn't help them in my opinion. And so... I think some character witnesses could have helped. I know one of the other jurors really wanted to hear from a psychologist. And we know that there was one that had been attempted to be called.

But essentially, he was called too late and wasn't allowed in, as we discussed. So it's just interesting. But now knowing that, I don't know what would have helped. Yeah.

But essentially, he was called too late and wasn't allowed in, as we discussed. So it's just interesting. But now knowing that, I don't know what would have helped. Yeah.

No, that was, I mean, I obviously went into detail about this on the podcast, but that was one of the harder moments for me is, you know, having both of his parents, but especially his mom up there. I had seen her throughout the entire trial, like from even day one of jury selection in the back of the room, in the seat behind me. And I didn't know who she was.

No, that was, I mean, I obviously went into detail about this on the podcast, but that was one of the harder moments for me is, you know, having both of his parents, but especially his mom up there. I had seen her throughout the entire trial, like from even day one of jury selection in the back of the room, in the seat behind me. And I didn't know who she was.

I kind of had an idea, but as the trial went on, She was a very familiar person in the room. I would see her crying often and just receiving this information. And it wasn't until she took the stand that I realized she not only was this the first time she was able to convey to everyone through a translator.

I kind of had an idea, but as the trial went on, She was a very familiar person in the room. I would see her crying often and just receiving this information. And it wasn't until she took the stand that I realized she not only was this the first time she was able to convey to everyone through a translator.

Her thoughts and emotions, but like it also helped help me see like, oh, my gosh, like she's not been able to understand the majority of what's going on here. She's just here watching, you know, seeing images and watching body language, you know, and then being told. By whomever, maybe her other son or whoever can, you know, she's getting bits and pieces.

Her thoughts and emotions, but like it also helped help me see like, oh, my gosh, like she's not been able to understand the majority of what's going on here. She's just here watching, you know, seeing images and watching body language, you know, and then being told. By whomever, maybe her other son or whoever can, you know, she's getting bits and pieces.

And anyway, it was just, it was heartbreaking seeing her up there. She's not responsible for her son's, you know, actions. And of course she wants him home. It's her kid. But also there is not one thing she could have said that could have changed what her son did. And that was why we were there.

And anyway, it was just, it was heartbreaking seeing her up there. She's not responsible for her son's, you know, actions. And of course she wants him home. It's her kid. But also there is not one thing she could have said that could have changed what her son did. And that was why we were there.

Yeah. I mean, obviously I couldn't know. Um, we do know there's no document in history of abuse or like domestic violence or, you know, he didn't have any strong outbursts in court or, you know, there's not even like run-ins with the law, you know? So we really don't know for sure what sparked this. Who knows what was going on internally in his mind?