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One more note back on this, her being in the fetal position as it relates to where her wounds were all related on one portion of her body, it proves that she was already in the fetal position during her attack, which then shows that she was very likely already shackled and cuffed.

Because the defense's argument is that those cuffs and shackles were placed after the fact in order to fit her into the bags and therefore the suitcase. Right.

Because the defense's argument is that those cuffs and shackles were placed after the fact in order to fit her into the bags and therefore the suitcase. Right.

Oh, yeah. And, you know, you didn't see the images, the photos. Only the people in the courtroom did. And I keep rubbing my wrist while I'm talking because the defensive wounds on... on her left, the inside of her left wrist and all the way up into her hand through her left hand. Um, it was so bad. It was, I mean, they were just so clearly defense.

Oh, yeah. And, you know, you didn't see the images, the photos. Only the people in the courtroom did. And I keep rubbing my wrist while I'm talking because the defensive wounds on... on her left, the inside of her left wrist and all the way up into her hand through her left hand. Um, it was so bad. It was, I mean, they were just so clearly defense.

She was trying to shield her face with her one free arm.

She was trying to shield her face with her one free arm.

I am not positive. I remember seeing this question and kind of doing a little research. I don't think he was.

I am not positive. I remember seeing this question and kind of doing a little research. I don't think he was.

Yeah, we don't have confirmation about whether a plea deal was formally offered, but based on what was said in court and reported publicly, it seems the case went straight to trial without one. So Chen didn't enter a guilty plea or accept responsibility in any way before the trial. So the prosecution moved forward with a first degree murder charge seeking life without parole.

Yeah, we don't have confirmation about whether a plea deal was formally offered, but based on what was said in court and reported publicly, it seems the case went straight to trial without one. So Chen didn't enter a guilty plea or accept responsibility in any way before the trial. So the prosecution moved forward with a first degree murder charge seeking life without parole.

I mean, from the start, all I can say is, you know, only he knows the motive and the reason and the details of that night. And we may never know that unless he decides to speak about it one day.

I mean, from the start, all I can say is, you know, only he knows the motive and the reason and the details of that night. And we may never know that unless he decides to speak about it one day.

Yeah. And we heard about this from DA's Wump and Moyle, but just kind of learning more about his character because they didn't really share it. There weren't character witnesses. There wasn't much information. At all about his character throughout the trial. So much of this I've learned after the fact, whether by people writing in or people we've come come in contact with just after the fact.

Yeah. And we heard about this from DA's Wump and Moyle, but just kind of learning more about his character because they didn't really share it. There weren't character witnesses. There wasn't much information. At all about his character throughout the trial. So much of this I've learned after the fact, whether by people writing in or people we've come come in contact with just after the fact.

And, you know, one of them was this this former roommate of his, a recent former roommate of his that they lived with each other during college. And, you know, they were seemingly friends, but then it just became this very manipulative relationship.

And, you know, one of them was this this former roommate of his, a recent former roommate of his that they lived with each other during college. And, you know, they were seemingly friends, but then it just became this very manipulative relationship.

relationship somehow at where Jason started hacking into this roommate's Facebook account and posting just really incriminating stuff, you know, kind of on his behalf and, you know, got him fired. And it was basically identity theft. Yeah.

relationship somehow at where Jason started hacking into this roommate's Facebook account and posting just really incriminating stuff, you know, kind of on his behalf and, you know, got him fired. And it was basically identity theft. Yeah.

Right. Just and honestly, like we've heard so many stories about Jason's past, including stories of manipulation like this one, identity theft and toxic behavior from former co-workers, friends. Yeah, it's just. Yeah. If you've been following the podcast, we've got something new for you. Now you can dive even deeper into each episode on our website, sequesteredpod.com.