Sasha Barber-Gatt

I want to ask you though, are things getting a little bit better in this space?

I've noticed over the last maybe five years, I get emails from about late April, rather, in the lead up to Mother's Day from all of the millions of companies I'm unfortunately subscribed to saying, would you like to unsubscribe from upcoming Mother's Day promotion emails?

And that move is designed so that women who have lost their mother...

don't have to be bombarded with constant Mother's Day messaging in the lead up to Mother's Day.

So my question around that then is, are we getting better as a society at recognising just how tough it is to have to go through life without your mum?

Yeah, 100%.

Look, I have a friend who's actually part of Motherless Daughters and I remember, so this was, I don't know, a few years ago.

So I was younger, maybe a little bit more naive.

I would try and Mother's Day would come up and we'd all kind of try and rally around her.

But there were times when I felt I was saying something wrong or I wasn't saying enough and

How can we in our own lives be better support systems for our friends and family members who have lost their mum?

And from a bigger perspective, what can...

I mean, governments, councils, sporting clubs, like these places that hold space for women and, you know, have a role to play in this.

What do you wish we could see from them in response to, I suppose, helping motherless daughters feel more supported and feel like they can take up space on Mother's Day?

Danielle, thank you so much for talking to us today and for helping us better understand how we can better understand motherless daughters.

Thanks for your time.

That was Danielle Snelling, the co-founder of Motherless Daughters Australia.

And if you feel like you need to talk to someone after today's chat, remember Lifeline is always there on 13 11 14.

And you can also check out motherlessdaughters.com.au for some amazing resources.

And that is all for this episode of The Briefing.