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Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

I'm glad they are, which is the big winners here are not going to be tech companies.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

The winners are going to be the broader industry that uses this commodity that, by the way, is abundant.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

And suddenly productivity goes up and the economy is growing at a faster rate.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

When that happens...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

We'll be fine as an industry.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

But that's, to me, the moment, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

So us self-claiming some AGI milestone, that's just nonsensical benchmark hacking to me.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

The real benchmark is, is the world growing at 10%.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

I mean, that is correct.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

And so therefore, but by the way, the balance is like, I think a little bit of it is right now is like, hey, let me, like the classic supply side is, oh, let me build it and they'll come, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

I mean, that's an argument.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

And, you know, after all we've done that, we've taken enough risk to go do it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

But at some point,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

the supply and demand have to map.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

That's why I'm tracking both sides of it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

That's why I think you can go off rails completely when you're all hyping yourself with all the supply side versus really understanding how to translate that into real value to customers.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

That's why I look at my inference revenue.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

That's one of the reasons why even the disclosure on the inference revenue, it's interesting that not many people are talking about their real revenue.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

But to me, that I think is important as a governor for how you think about it, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

And you're not going to say, oh, they have to symmetrically meet at any given point in time.