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Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

But you need to have existence proof that you are able to parlay yesterday's, let's call it, capital into today's demand so that then you can again invest, maybe exponentially even, knowing that you're not going to be completely rate mismatched.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

It makes sense, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

I mean, the thing is, here's the interesting thing, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

The real question, quite frankly, to answer is,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

Is this just about, like, that's why even that balanced approach to the fleet at least is very important to me, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

Which is, it's not about building compute.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

It's about building compute that can actually help me not only train the next big model, but also serve the next big model.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

And you understand until you do those two things, you're not going to be able to really be in a position to take advantage of even your investment, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

So that's kind of where it's not a race to just building a model.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

It's a race to creating a commodity that is getting used in the world to drive.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

So you have to have a complete thought.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

Not just one thing that you're thinking about.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

And so that's at least in my view of saying, and by the way, one of the things is that it will be overbuilt.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

To your point about you sort of said what happened in the dot-com era.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

And I look at it and say, now the memo has gone out that, hey, you need more energy and you need more compute.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

Thank God for it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

And so everybody's going to race.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

In fact, I look at the number of, it's not just companies deploying, countries are going to deploy capital.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

And they will be clearly.