Satyar Shah

They are the ones that have the owner buying into the plan.

And how do you buy into a plan?

Well, having success, but also having this type of framework that allows people to feel good about the process.

And the process in Vancouver, as we talked about over the last while, has not been as good as it has needed to be in the past.

And if you get to a point where ownership is going to change the plan or get overly excited or down on certain things, well, you can have a great group of young players, but are you patient to see it

unfold?

Are you going to hold it all together?

So it goes beyond just talent accumulation.

And that's what separates great organizations.

And today in 2026 and above, it's more than just getting players and throwing them onto the ice and hoping that they do well.

So many other things have to come together for you and so many other boxes you have to check.

Yeah.

This one here says, We talked about that.

It doesn't look like...

it's going to be happening here in Vancouver.

We'll find out here over the next little while who the next general manager of the Vancouver Canucks is going to be.

I know Evan Gold's been talked about quite a bit.

We mentioned this on the show a couple weeks ago.

He's a legitimate candidate.

He's been a part of this group here in terms of...