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Scott Alexander

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Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

We need an equivalent of the NCVS, reports coming from the victims themselves.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

Our best bet is the National Retail Survey, from a retail organisation which asks stores what percent of their inventory they believe they lose to various causes, including shoplifting.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

Here's a graph, estimated external theft or shoplifting portion of shrink as percentage of sales.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

External theft has historically been around 33% to 36% of total shrink.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

This chart multiplies total shrink by the reported external theft share.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

It goes from 2004 to 2022.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

It's showing a modest increase.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

It starts at around 0.5% and it increases up to about 0.57%.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

Scott writes, only about a 20% increase during the 2004 to 2022 period.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

The NRS is sponsored by a retail trade industry group which really wants to find shoplifting so they can lobby for better anti-shoplifting measures.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

In 2024, they were so embarrassed by their failure to do so that they stopped the survey entirely and sold the survey brand to an anti-shoplifting security tech company.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

The company replaced it with a survey of vibes among store owners and dutifully reported that the vibes about shoplifting had never been worse and you needed to buy their product right away.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

The survey doesn't disaggregate by city, so maybe national shoplifting is stable, but San Francisco really is worse and just isn't reporting it to the police?

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

Might this be because there are fewer stores, everyone is buying through Amazon, and therefore even if all existing stores are crammed with shoplifters all the time, it shows up as less shoplifting?

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

This isn't trivially true.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

The number of stores has declined less than I would expect, maybe not at all.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

But there's been a shift in types of stores, from big box to local.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

If these types have different shoplifting or reporting patterns, that might matter.