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Astral Codex Ten Podcast

Mantic Monday: The Monkey's Paw Curls

30 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

1.094 - 26.953 Jeremiah

Welcome to the Astral Codex X podcast for the 13th of January, 2026. Title, Mantic Monday, The Monkey's Paw Curls. This is an audio version of Astral Codex X, Scott Alexander's Substack. If you like it, you can subscribe at astralcodex10.substack.com. The Monkey's Paw Curls. Isn't may you get exactly what you asked for one of those ancient Chinese curses?

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Chapter 2: What recent developments have occurred in prediction markets?

27.674 - 45.816 Scott Alexander

Since we last spoke, prediction markets have gone to the moon, rising from millions to billions in monthly volume. Here's a graph, polymarket and kaoshi volume monthly. It starts in 2020, and the line is so low that you just can't see it. It's down on zero. It starts to stir in early 2024.

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46.049 - 69.581 Scott Alexander

goes up a bit, comes down in early 2025, and then absolutely skyrockets, going from close to zero and then being at around $2.5 billion, then suddenly shooting up within the space of a few months to $7.5 billion and above. Scott writes, For a few weeks in October, Polymarket founder Shane Coplin was the world's youngest self-made billionaire. Now it's some AI people.

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70.402 - 98.179 Scott Alexander

Kaoshi is so accurate that it's getting called a national security threat. The catch is, of course, that it's mostly degenerate gambling, especially sports betting. Cauchy is 81% sports by monthly volume. Polymarket does better, only 37%, but some of the remainder is things like this $686,000 market on how often Elon Musk will tweet this week, currently dominated by the 140-164 times category.

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99.053 - 120.902 Scott Alexander

Ironically, this seems to be a regulatory difference. US regulators don't mind sports betting, but look unfavourably on potentially insensitive markets, in quotes, like bets about wars. Polymarket has historically been offshore and so able to concentrate on geopolitics. Cauchy has been in the US and so stuck mostly to sports. But Polymarket is in the process of moving onshore.

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121.463 - 137.814 Scott Alexander

I don't know if this will affect their ability to offer geopolitical markets. Degenerate gambling is bad, link in post. Insofar as prediction markets have acted as a Trojan horse to enable it, this is bad. Insofar as my advocacy helped make this possible, I am bad.

138.715 - 155.352 Scott Alexander

I can only plead that it didn't really seem plausible back in 2021 that a presidential administration would keep all normal restrictions on sports gambling, but also let prediction markets do it as much as they wanted. If only there had been some kind of decentralized forecasting tool that could have given me a canonical probability of this outcome.

156.817 - 175.808 Scott Alexander

Still, it might seem that, whatever the degenerate gamblers are doing, we at least have some interesting data. There are now strong, minimally regulated, high-volume prediction markets on important global events. In this column, I previously claimed this would revolutionize society. Has it? Here's a screen capture. There are some markets pictured here.

176.149 - 192.696 Scott Alexander

Khamenei out as supreme leader of Iran, 20% chance. Will Trump acquire Greenland before 2027, 18% chance. Israel strikes Iran by January 31, 2026, 31% chance. US takes Iran by, dates suggested, dominated by January 31, 30%.

194.482 - 221.333 Scott Alexander

Ducks vs Hoosiers, showing Hoosiers as the favourites, Kings vs Jets, Hawks vs Nuggets, Kings vs Warriors, Elon Musk number of tweets January 8-10, 2026, dominated by 140-164, US strike on Mexico by, dominated by March 31, Super Bowl champion 2026, dominated by Seattle, and ice shooter charged by March 31, 21% chance.

Chapter 3: How did Polymarket and Kalshi change the landscape of prediction markets?

372.554 - 392.82 Scott Alexander

Will selling US chips to China help them win the AI race? Will kidnapping Venezuela's president weaken international law in some meaningful way that will cause trouble in the future? If America nation-builds Venezuela, for whatever definition of nation-build, will that work well or backfire? Some of these are long horizon, some of these are conditional, and some of these are hard to resolve.

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393.501 - 415.716 Scott Alexander

There are potential solutions to all these problems, but why worry about them when you can go to the moon on sports bets? The new era of prediction markets has provided charming additions to the language, including rules cuck, someone who loses an otherwise prescient bet based on technicalities of the resolution criteria.

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416.067 - 435.37 Scott Alexander

Resolution criteria are the small print explaining what counts as the prediction market topic happening. For example, in the Khomeini example above, Khomeini qualifies as being out of power in quotes if, quote, he resigns, is detained, or otherwise loses his position or is prevented from fulfilling his duties as Supreme Leader of Iran within this market's time frame.

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436.011 - 455.013 Scott Alexander

The primary resolution source for this market will be a consensus of credible reporting. End quote. You can imagine ways this definition departs from an exact commonsensical concept of out of power. For example, if Khomeini gets stuck in an elevator for half an hour and misses a key meeting, does this count as him being prevented from fulfilling his duties?

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455.795 - 461.987 Scott Alexander

With thousands of markets getting resolved per month, chances are high that at least one will hinge upon one of these edge cases.

Chapter 4: What are the implications of prediction markets being primarily sports betting?

462.406 - 482.727 Scott Alexander

Kaoshi resolves markets by having a staff member with good judgment decide whether or not the situation satisfies the resolution criteria. Polymarket resolves markets by... Oh man, how long do you have? There's a cryptocurrency called UMA. UMA owners can stake it to vote on Polymarket resolutions in an associated contract called the UMA Oracle.

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483.928 - 497.303 Scott Alexander

Voters on the losing side get their cryptocurrency confiscated and given to the winners. This creates a Keynesian beauty contest. that is, a situation where everyone tries to vote for the winning side. The most natural shelling point is the side which is actually correct.

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497.903 - 512.176 Scott Alexander

If someone tries to attack the oracle by buying lots of UMA and voting for the wrong side, this incentivizes bystanders to come in and defend the oracle by voting for the right side, since, conditional on there being common knowledge that everyone will do this, that means they get free money at the attacker's expense.

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512.757 - 527.572 Scott Alexander

But also UMA goes up if people trust the oracle to plan and plan to use it more often, and goes down if people think the oracle is useless and may soon get replaced by other systems. So regardless of their other incentives, everyone who owns the currency has an incentive to vote for the true answer so people keep trusting the oracle.

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528.393 - 548.472 Scott Alexander

This system does work most of the time, but tends towards so-called oracle drama, where a seemingly prosaic resolution might lie at the end of a thrilling story of attacks, counterattacks, and escalations. Here are some of the most interesting alleged rules-cuckings of 2026. Mr. Ozzy, will Zelensky wear a suit?

549.193 - 568.266 Scott Alexander

Ivan Kryptoslav calls this, quote, the most infamous example in polymarket history, end quote. Ukraine's president dresses mostly in military fatigues, vowing never to wear a suit until the war is over. As his sartorial notoriety spread, polymarket traders bet over $100 million on the question of whether he would crack in any given month.

568.381 - 587.74 Scott Alexander

At the Pope's funeral, Zelensky showed up in a respectful-looking jacket, which might or might not count. Most media organizations refused to describe it as a suit, in quotes, so the decentralized oracle ruled against. But over the next few months, Zelensky continued to straddle the border of suithood, and the media eventually started using the word suit in their articles.

588.3 - 602.912 Scott Alexander

This presented a quandary for the oracle, which was supposed to respect both the precedent of its past rulings and the consensus of media organizations. Voters switched sides several times until finally settling on no. True suit believers were unsatisfied with this decision.

603.633 - 618.094 Scott Alexander

For what it's worth, the Twitter menswear guy told Wired that, quote, it meets the technical definition, but I would also recognize that most people would not think of that as a suit, end quote. Doma, will Ukraine agree to the US mineral deal?

Chapter 5: What are the challenges faced by prediction markets in terms of regulation?

618.775 - 639.211 Scott Alexander

As far as I can tell, this is the only case where the oracle genuinely broke down, as opposed to a legitimate disagreement. In February, it looked like both America and Ukraine had agreed to a mineral deal, but the Oracle considered the question and decided this didn't count as a full agreement. And indeed, the apparent agreement fell apart. In March, a cabal of Yes holders tried again.

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639.251 - 659.188 Scott Alexander

They waited for a time when all Polymarket employees would be out of the office, and when not too many people would be voting on the decentralized resolution oracle, then spammed it with calls to resolve to Yes based on an argument that the February agreement had qualified after all. The Yes holders, and not particularly plugged-in oracle voters, pushed the vote towards Yes.

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659.168 - 672.339 Scott Alexander

Then, with two minutes to spare, a Polymarket employee showed up and said that Polymarket's opinion was that it should be no. This was technically framed as a recommendation to Oracle voters, but it is so effective in establishing the shelling point that it's practically always followed.

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673.06 - 694.542 Scott Alexander

However, in this case, there were only two minutes left, which wasn't enough time for the voters to change their mind. Seeing that the resolution was trending towards yes, the Polymarket representatives, not wanting to break their streak of always establishing the shelling point, changed their own opinion to yes, and the final vote was yes 99%. Doma, how many people watched the Oscars on 3-5-25?

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695.5 - 712.278 Scott Alexander

Kalshi's resolution criteria for this market said that they would resolve it when a major news source published Oscar viewership numbers. A few minutes after the Oscars, New York Times published preliminary viewership numbers without any caveats saying that they were preliminary. The next day, they published another article saying that actually, the real viewership numbers were higher.

712.778 - 727.967 Scott Alexander

Kalshi decided that the letter of the resolution criteria was met when the New York Times published its first article. There was nothing in the resolution criteria saying that they would be corrected if a new source changed their mind. Therefore, they would pay out according to New York Times' first preliminary, that is wrong, estimate.

728.588 - 751.463 Scott Alexander

Traders who bet on the later, that is correct, numbers were unsatisfied with this decision. New York Post. Will America invade Venezuela? On January 3, the US bombed Venezuela, sent in special forces teams that successfully captured President Maduro, and announced that they would thenceforward, quote, run the country, a claim they later walked back. Does this qualify as an invasion, in quotes?

752.164 - 769.489 Scott Alexander

Polymarket's resolution criteria defined invasion as, quote, a military offensive intended to establish control over any portion of Venezuela, end quote. It didn't seem like the US was trying to establish control over Venezuelan territory, exactly, so they resolved no. Traders who bet on yes were unsatisfied with this decision.

771.432 - 776.841 Scott Alexander

With one exception, these aren't outright oracle failures, they're honest cases of ambiguous rules.

Chapter 6: Why is degenerate gambling considered harmful in prediction markets?

777.192 - 791.789 Scott Alexander

Most of the links end with pleas for Polymarket to get better at clarifying rules. My perspective is that the few times I've talked to Polymarket people, I've begged them to implement various cool features, and they've always said nope, sorry, too busy figuring out ways to make rules clearer.

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792.49 - 805.849 Scott Alexander

Prediction market people obsess over maximally finicky resolution criteria, but somehow it's never enough. You just can't specify every possible state of the world beforehand. The most interesting proposal I've seen in this space is to make LLMs do it.

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806.329 - 830.115 Scott Alexander

You can train them on good rule sets, and they're tolerant enough of tedium to print out pages and pages of every possible edge case without going crazy. It'll be fun the first time one of them hallucinates, though. I include this section under protest. The media likes engaging with prediction markets through dramatic stories about insider trading and market manipulation.

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830.23 - 850.619 Scott Alexander

This is as useful as engaging with Waymo through stories about cats being run over, link in post. It doesn't matter whether you can find one lurid example of something going wrong. What matters is the base rates, the consequences, and the alternatives. Polymarket resolves about 1,000 markets a month, and Kaoshi closer to 5,000. It's no surprise that a few go wrong.

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851 - 871.088 Scott Alexander

It's even less surprise that there are false accusations of a few going wrong. Still, I would be remiss not to mention this at all. So here are some of the more interesting stories. Phantom bets. Who will win the 2025 Nobel Peace Prize? Twelve hours before the announcement, someone placed a large polymarket bet on Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Corina Machado.

871.068 - 882.584 Scott Alexander

bringing her probability from 4% to 73%. When Machado later won, observers suspected insider trading. But an account named PhantomBets claimed to have interviewed the winning trader.

883.005 - 907.53 Scott Alexander

Although he did not reveal his exact strategy, his claims better match a story where he was good at navigating WordPress directories and found that the Nobel team put a draft of the announcement up early in a non-public part of their WordPress site. He won about $70,000. This is a small town in Ukraine, far from the front line that the Russians obviously were not going to capture.

908.011 - 927.564 Scott Alexander

The polymarket price trended towards zero. The resolution criteria named maps by the well-regarded Institute for the Study of War as canon. A few hours before resolution, ISW updated their maps to show the center of that town captured by Russia, which was obviously false. Polymark had resolved to yes, and the fictional Russian advance disappeared.

928.345 - 946.646 Scott Alexander

The institute then issued a statement saying the map update was unapproved, in quotes, and fired one of its staffers who had presumably been involved. The cheater's exact winnings are unknown, but based on the size of the market, are probably mid-six digits. TechCrunch. What words will be used in Coinbase's earnings call?

Chapter 7: How have prediction markets been used to forecast global events?

968.026 - 996.793 Scott Alexander

Armstrong is worth $10 billion and doesn't need to manipulate a $50,000 market to make money. He later clarified that he was trolling, in quotes. Other crypto executives condemned the move, with one saying that, quote, I might need my head examined because I think it's at least kind of funny. Forbes. Who will rank highest on Google search volume this year?

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997.614 - 1017.36 Scott Alexander

A trader called Alpha Raccoon got 22 of 23 of these polymarket questions right, and had a history of implausibly good performance on Google-related questions. They basically have to be a Google insider, but since all of this is done through crypto, nobody has a good way to figure out who. They made $1 million. NPR. Will Maduro be captured?

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1017.425 - 1030.526 Scott Alexander

Just before the secret operation that captured Maduro, someone placed him a serious $32,000 wager placed on Yes. Was this insider trading by someone in the administration or military? Nobody knows, since the profits go to an anonymous crypto wallet.

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1031.087 - 1051.095 Scott Alexander

But the article mentions that the crypto wallet appeared to be cashing out through regulated KYC-compliant US exchanges, which suggests they're not very worried about their identity getting discovered. Maybe someone just got lucky after all. Alan M. Cole. How long will Carolyn Leavitt speak at the White House briefing? Carolyn Leavitt is Trump's press secretary.

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1051.716 - 1071.175 Scott Alexander

On January 7, she held an ordinary press briefing. Kalshi had its usual market about how long the briefing would last, divided into bins of greater than versus less than 65 minutes. At the 64-minute, 24-second mark, Leavitt ended the conference in what appeared to be a sudden manner, and the less-than-65-minutes bin shot from 2% to 100%.

1071.155 - 1085.618 Scott Alexander

A viral tweet convinced many people that Levitt must have been insider trading, but Cole counter-argued that Levitt could only have won about $4,000 from the market, which probably isn't enough to risk one's job as White House press secretary. Sometimes people just end press conferences at weird times.

1086.78 - 1103.562 Scott Alexander

Cole concluded, quote, Now, some opinions and generalizations, as someone who looks at prediction markets plenty, I'll probably write something about my own experience with them at some point. 1. This market, like many of them, is pretty stupid. I like substantive markets. This isn't substantive. 2.

1103.862 - 1116.738 Scott Alexander

The major prediction markets have a wildly undisciplined comms strategy where any attention is good attention, and they love implying all sorts of crazy Wild West stuff is going on to get attention. 3. People do bet on things potentially subject to manipulation or insider trading.

1117.399 - 1135.144 Scott Alexander

But usually, markets like that, such as duration of press conference or stupid what-will-be-mentioned markets, are small, especially relative to the wealth of key decision-makers. 4. Losers in markets are huge whiners, and the more frivolous and tiny their bets, the more likely they are to whine. Sometimes in sports it's pretty egregious.

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