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It was a deadly weekend in Minneapolis.

On Saturday, a federal immigration officer fatally shot a 37-year-old ICU nurse and U.S.

citizen, Alex Preddy.

That's Heather Zielinski, a friend of Preddy.

Preddy worked at the Veterans Affairs Hospital in Minneapolis.

A video circulating from 2024 shows Preddy honoring a veteran he had cared for.

Preddy's death comes two weeks after an ICE agent shot and killed Renee Macklin Good.

Federal officials claim Preddy, quote, brandished a weapon and tried to assault officers as they conducted an immigration enforcement operation.

Here's Border Patrol Commander Greg Bovino on CNN.

The videos of the shooting contradict that.

Preddy is not seen brandishing his handgun in any of them.