Scott Detrow

As the once cold relations between the U.S. and Russia begin to thaw, the fate of Ukraine hangs in the balance. From NPR, I'm Scott Detrow. It's Consider This from NPR. For the past three years, the U.S. has been Ukraine's leading supporter in its war with Russia. But with a series of stunning moves, President Trump is now sounding more aligned with Russia than with Ukraine.

To break this down, we are joined by NPR's Greg Myrie in Washington and Joanna Kikis in Kiev. Hey to both of you. Hello. Hi, Scott. Greg, I want to start with you. Trump is publicly attacking Ukraine's president. Why? Why is he doing this?

To break this down, we are joined by NPR's Greg Myrie in Washington and Joanna Kikis in Kiev. Hey to both of you. Hello. Hi, Scott. Greg, I want to start with you. Trump is publicly attacking Ukraine's president. Why? Why is he doing this?

To break this down, we are joined by NPR's Greg Myrie in Washington and Joanna Kikis in Kiev. Hey to both of you. Hello. Hi, Scott. Greg, I want to start with you. Trump is publicly attacking Ukraine's president. Why? Why is he doing this?

Joanna, how are people in Ukraine responding? Specifically, how is Zelensky responding?

Joanna, how are people in Ukraine responding? Specifically, how is Zelensky responding?

Joanna, how are people in Ukraine responding? Specifically, how is Zelensky responding?

So Trump is attacking Zelensky, echoing Kremlin talking points. Zelensky is responding. But Joanna, at the same time, Trump's envoy for Ukraine, Keith Kellogg, is in Kiev. How is he being received?

So Trump is attacking Zelensky, echoing Kremlin talking points. Zelensky is responding. But Joanna, at the same time, Trump's envoy for Ukraine, Keith Kellogg, is in Kiev. How is he being received?

So Trump is attacking Zelensky, echoing Kremlin talking points. Zelensky is responding. But Joanna, at the same time, Trump's envoy for Ukraine, Keith Kellogg, is in Kiev. How is he being received?

OK, so, Greg, what what is likely to happen with U.S. military support for Ukraine? It's billions and billions of dollars.

OK, so, Greg, what what is likely to happen with U.S. military support for Ukraine? It's billions and billions of dollars.

OK, so, Greg, what what is likely to happen with U.S. military support for Ukraine? It's billions and billions of dollars.

Question for both of you. Trump really seems to be in a hurry here to get ceasefire negotiations started. What are the various parties? We're talking Trump in America, Ukraine, and Russia. What do they want from these talks? Greg, let me start with you.

Question for both of you. Trump really seems to be in a hurry here to get ceasefire negotiations started. What are the various parties? We're talking Trump in America, Ukraine, and Russia. What do they want from these talks? Greg, let me start with you.

Question for both of you. Trump really seems to be in a hurry here to get ceasefire negotiations started. What are the various parties? We're talking Trump in America, Ukraine, and Russia. What do they want from these talks? Greg, let me start with you.

That is NPR's Joanna Kakissis in Kiev, as well as NPR's Greg Myrie talking to us from Washington. Thanks to both of you.

That is NPR's Joanna Kakissis in Kiev, as well as NPR's Greg Myrie talking to us from Washington. Thanks to both of you.

That is NPR's Joanna Kakissis in Kiev, as well as NPR's Greg Myrie talking to us from Washington. Thanks to both of you.

Thanks, Scott. This episode was produced by Mark Rivers and Brianna Scott. It was edited by Jeanette Woods, Tara Neal, Patrick Jaron-Watanon, and Nadia Lancey. Our executive producer is Sammy Yannigan. It's Consider This from NPR. I'm Scott Detrow.