Scott Macpherson

15 or whatever course you're talking about.

So we compare courses differently now than we did or they did in those days.

And if you go into the RNA, if you have that opportunity, the bunkers, they're planned and they're named and they're measured.

And now we do that with greens.

So I think from a design perspective, I was quite captivated by how there's been a shift in how we identify and rate to a degree our golf courses.

Well, probably because they're central.

So because everything was fairly central.

And I guess in my mind, I'm still thinking about that concept of 1821 plan,

18 holes, but only 10 cups cut.

And then this growing popularity of the sport, and then the safety-related aspects.

So the RNA is saying at the committee meeting, all right, chaps, we've had some issues here.

Bob got hit last week.

Maybe we should add another hole.

I suspect it was a fairly logical conversation, which led to a practical solution.

Is that answering your question?

Yeah, correct.

So then we talk about, well, when did mowers come in?

Hang on a second.

What's happened here with technology?

So you...