Scott Pelley

We had already done, in my view, the important work of journalism to balance the story finally.

The story was not out of balance.

It was not out of balance.

But there was a thumb on the scale to push the balance a little further in another direction.

Well, it was the interference that's a problem, especially a story that's been approved by the top editors.

And the bigger problem, Lulu, frankly,

is not any kind of political influence.

The problem was the incompetence.

You don't break a deadline.

Now this is four hours after.

That episode of 60 Minutes came within 19 minutes of not making air, the entire hour of 60 Minutes.

It was the night of the Grammys.

60 Minutes was the lead into the Grammys.

And we almost didn't have a broadcast.

19 minutes.

I can't imagine that's ever happened before.

And I pledged to myself at that time that no matter what Barry Weiss wanted to do in a story, I would never break the deadline again.

Because we put the entire network in jeopardy.

The impression that I had at the moment was that she was representing... Let me try.

I kind of need to be a little bit careful here because I don't want to be hyperbolic.