Seamus Marten

So that's for...

It's more work than you think it is.

Yeah.

That's four conversations with sponsors and then four contracts and then four lots of deliverables and all that sort of stuff, as well as we're sort of split lanes, right?

So I'm sort of sales and working the commercials and Shea's on logistics and how to get us in all the gear over there.

Yeah, budget, budgeting.

I don't think he's ever going to be happy.

But I remember we went up to TVNZ and had a meeting there in person with the team, Melody Robinson and everyone.

It was amazing.

And we walked out afterwards.

And that was when we had one of those conversations like, oh, shit, I guess we are actually going to win.

Yeah.

And then I think we both faced the reality of being away from family for three to four weeks.

We're going to be staying there as long as the oil weights are in, so it could extend.

And then I was like, oh.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Three episodes ago, I'm not sure where it was, we sort of spoke about all of the stuff bubbling away.

And there was stuff that we couldn't talk about.

And so this is one of them.