Sean Callagy

Yeah, I'm a Harvard MBA, which is you, David, correct?

I've never made a movie before, but now I think you should create Marvel Studios, and I've never created a studio either.

So I've never made a movie.

I've never created a studio.

Right.

Never raised money.

And Ike, you're this extremely masterful, difficult person who doesn't like to spend money, but let's go build a studio.

Exactly.

And so he actually, my meeting with Ike, funny enough, was at Mar-a-Lago in 2003.

And Ike was and still is one of President Trump's two or three best friends, social friends.

And I went to have lunch with Ike, but a third person joined us for two hours, which was Donald Trump.

And the reason he joined at the time was purely because he was about to do Apprentice and enter the Hollywood world.

And he knew Ike had some young kid coming, talking about Hollywood.

And so it was a pretty amazing lunch and it was going nowhere.

I pitched this, it was...

It was going nowhere.

I didn't quite understand the perspective, which is so important to get a yes, of where the person is coming from and their values and what their trigger points could be.

I kept saying things that were repulsive to Ike.

You're going to spend money.

You're going to spend $100 million even though you only have $5 million in the bank account.