Sean Callagy

But how did you know that?

It was...

observation and testing combined with then thinking through psychology, why that would be the case.

And I realized it's the case with everything.

You meet somebody new, if the first couple minutes are just person's head down and nothing happening, it's hard to recover from that.

And it's always good to end with something.

Even all of us go into long business meetings and it could be two hours long or an hour long with somebody and it can get into topics and have a different energy flow.

But then at the end, if you're like full of energy and talking about.

You know, referring back to things that they said, showing them that you listened and seeing them as a person and talking about future things, that's what people remember.

And so it's experience testing.

Trying to understand why.

And then trying to.

And that creates what sometimes people call instinct.

Like when people ask me, why did you have the vision for Marvel when no one else had it?

I don't really, I can't really answer that, but it wasn't just like I sat in an ivory tower and the idea popped in my head.

I had worked so hard learning the industry

And that gave me a better chance to have the vision and the things that people would say are very hard to get.

And then once you have the vision, the tenacity to stay with it and make sure you don't get distracted or give it up too soon.

Here,

I knew people would be walking into Iron Man, I felt, thinking, another superhero movie, how's this gonna be different?