Sean Carroll

And maybe, ideally, you don't want any enemies at all.

But if you're going to have enemies, they should be higher quality.

So we need to have these discussions.

about what liberalism is, what it should be, what it can be, and how to get there.

So let's go.

Adam Gurry, welcome to the Mindscape Podcast.

You know, usually, not all the time, but the typical Mindscape guest is a professor of some sort, you know, of various kinds of disciplines, but not always.

And you're something different, you know, a founder of a magazine online.

Yeah.

And, of course, that's a perfectly important part of the ideas ecosystem, but it does make you wonder about the difference.

And, you know, so what is it that made you think at some point, you know, what the world needs is an online magazine about liberalism?

So I guess maybe I should have asked this one first, but then how are we defining the word liberalism here?

But in particular, it's not liberalism in the sense of liberals versus conservatives in contemporary US politics.

And I want to dig into this thing that you said that because liberalism in this broad philosophical sense had become so much the dominant paradigm in the United States, we became less good at articulating the basic arguments for it.

And therefore, there's more space for...

Real arguments against it.

You know, like there's always been your authoritarians who want to seize power.

But in the last 20 years or whatever, there's been more academic or serious work that is avowedly anti-liberal, especially on the conservative side, I would say.

So who are the voices in the post-liberal sphere?

Also, our audience don't know any of these people's names.