Sean Gallagher

But yeah, the adventure trips that we do bring guys together, get them excited.

We have a large team to help us organize all the events.

We do a lot of these a year.

We create local events.

Guys are always traveling around, so we connect them that way as well.

Yeah, we really plan out.

I mean, we rented two 50-foot yachts and sailboats and took them out to these remote islands where there's nothing, not even a cell phone signal.

And there's a lot of logistics that go into that.

And especially since our goal with these adventure trips, it looks like it's a gay travel agency or something.

You know, an old boys club just going out for a sale or something.

But the reality is that we're a well-oiled machine at creating authentic situations that encourage vulnerable conversations.

And so the whole weekend is built to lead guys down a path of getting real with each other and building real solid friendships.

Uh, what's it called?

Uh, the obstacles, the way by Ryan holiday.

I follow Jason Gannard, everything he does.

I mean, we're close friends, and he is a member of the Brotherhood.

I can divulge that information because he talks about it a lot at his events and on his podcast.

But Jason Gannard and Elliot.

Elliot is now the founder of Summit.

His event is the closest thing I found to the brotherhood.