Sean Hayes

But we all make stuff.

We all produce or write or direct or act, whatever.

And Charlie, kind of what Jason was talking about, is there a point where you... Like, are you getting to a point where it's bothersome that the grind is getting to you about getting all these no's?

Because it seems now to put together a package to sell something, you have to...

really stack the deck high before anybody will even consider.

You hear about Meryl Streep getting passed or whoever these big stars go out to pitch these shows and they get passed.

Well, if they get passed and I'm stacking these deck and we're getting those, what does it take to keep a production company going?

And we will be right back.

And now back to the show.

No way.

Yeah, anytime there's a bad joke.

I know, I'm too lazy to lift this up and go in there because I've got to hook it all up.

But wait, Charlie, do you still play violin?

Do you still play these instruments?

Wikipedia is very accurate.

Is there an instrument that you excel at or that you stick with?

Keep it clean.

Clean it up now.

Charlie, when you write and produce or direct or whatever you do, do you think about music when you're doing it or is it an afterthought?

Depeche Mode.