Sean Rameswaram

Ben is going to sit down with Jon Fetterman when we are back on Today Explained.

Ben is going to sit down with Jon Fetterman when we are back on Today Explained.

Ben is going to sit down with Jon Fetterman when we are back on Today Explained.

Today Explained is back with Ben Terrace from New York Magazine. Ben, you met with Senator Fetterman for this piece you wrote. Tell us how that meeting went. Well, it was sort of a tale of two meetings in a way.

Today Explained is back with Ben Terrace from New York Magazine. Ben, you met with Senator Fetterman for this piece you wrote. Tell us how that meeting went. Well, it was sort of a tale of two meetings in a way.

Today Explained is back with Ben Terrace from New York Magazine. Ben, you met with Senator Fetterman for this piece you wrote. Tell us how that meeting went. Well, it was sort of a tale of two meetings in a way.

One of Ben's sources for his piece was a guy named Adam Jentleson, a former Fetterman chief of staff who was previously in a similar role with Senator Harry Reid. But also, Adam's a friend of Ben's. We asked him if that complicated his reporting at all, if he was worried about Adam's own agenda. Yeah, of course.

One of Ben's sources for his piece was a guy named Adam Jentleson, a former Fetterman chief of staff who was previously in a similar role with Senator Harry Reid. But also, Adam's a friend of Ben's. We asked him if that complicated his reporting at all, if he was worried about Adam's own agenda. Yeah, of course.

One of Ben's sources for his piece was a guy named Adam Jentleson, a former Fetterman chief of staff who was previously in a similar role with Senator Harry Reid. But also, Adam's a friend of Ben's. We asked him if that complicated his reporting at all, if he was worried about Adam's own agenda. Yeah, of course.

Right. So Senator Fetterman's reaction to your piece is it's a one source hit piece.

Right. So Senator Fetterman's reaction to your piece is it's a one source hit piece.

Right. So Senator Fetterman's reaction to your piece is it's a one source hit piece.

So there's nothing new. You talked. It sounds like dozens and dozens of people. Did they all tell the same story?

So there's nothing new. You talked. It sounds like dozens and dozens of people. Did they all tell the same story?

So there's nothing new. You talked. It sounds like dozens and dozens of people. Did they all tell the same story?

And yet the feeling you're left with after you read your piece is that this individual may be unfit to serve in the United States Senate. What was the reaction to your piece when you published it?

And yet the feeling you're left with after you read your piece is that this individual may be unfit to serve in the United States Senate. What was the reaction to your piece when you published it?

And yet the feeling you're left with after you read your piece is that this individual may be unfit to serve in the United States Senate. What was the reaction to your piece when you published it?

And so losing him could be a loss in that way. So despite what you reveal in your reporting, it doesn't sound like there's a huge clamoring for this politician to step down. And yet, in the days following your reporting, we hear of a union meeting that he participates in that goes south. What happened there?

And so losing him could be a loss in that way. So despite what you reveal in your reporting, it doesn't sound like there's a huge clamoring for this politician to step down. And yet, in the days following your reporting, we hear of a union meeting that he participates in that goes south. What happened there?