Sean Spicer

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520 appearances 10 recordings 5 series first heard Dec 2024 last heard May 2025

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And so, yeah, I mean, look, I'm not as much of an expert on I've used signal, but my technical expertise is somewhat limited to on and off on most devices. That being said, I again, part of this doesn't like I've made mistakes. I've added people to text chains that I didn't intend to. But but that's obvious. Like my my someone the other day was texting my wife and I and they got the wrong Rebecca.
Right. So and immediately I'm like, who are you adding to this?
Yeah, yeah. So, look, I agree with you. So except look, I've known Mike Waltz for a while. I think he is a man of high integrity. He served his country honorably. He's a brilliant guy when it comes to diplomacy. He's an SF guy from the Army. That's my only issue, that he chose the wrong service.
That being said, to your point, again, I admit, I yelled at Jeffrey Goldberg once because of this despicable story. I have no problem to say, yeah, I got the guy in my contacts, and I mistakenly added him when I meant to add someone else. We all do it. That's what I'm saying.
That's that's that's my point is that like, yeah, we all have people in our phone. I've got some people on my phone that believe me, I would never like because of, you know, the people I've been in contact with over the last 10 years that I wouldn't ever want to call or contact. But, you know, you don't delete the contact.
I just and if you did, by the way, Charlie, here's the point. If you did, you could say, God, we just did this podcast and I was coordinating with them. And so it doesn't. Right. It makes sense. And so just say if that's the case. But otherwise, you're absolutely right. There's got to be an explanation about why. And here's the thing to your second point.
Because I think there's got to be a third issue, which is some staffer did it. Because if you're going to break into somebody's phone, are you really going to add Jeffrey Goldberg to the chain? I mean, I've got a list of people I'd rather add to a chain if I'm snooping or doing something than Jeffrey Goldberg.
Can't you believe that some staffer at some point added, I mean, I said that it didn't though.
No, no, no. But here's the way I look at this. I have a belief, and I haven't asked the president this, but knowing the president's – his view of Jeffrey Goldberg, I think that's what pisses him off the most. And of all people that you did this to – so if you have to explain it to him – And you're talking to Donald Trump and you say, Mr. President, here's what happened. And I don't know why.
And so here's my answer. I'm going to get the best technical mind to explain. That's your way of at least being like, hey, I'm on it.
I don't think so. Not yet. I mean, I think the bigger question right now, one, is about the discussion that we're having. What is the government doing to find out how this got added? Because that seems to be now the big question. The second is, I think one of the issues that we need to also understand is, were these officials on their government phones or their personal phones?
And that's what I thought would probably be coming out right off the bat.
Charlie, can I make a quick point? Because this goes back to the point you're making. If it was on a government phone, I think that raises the question about why Jeffrey Goldberg was in there. In a very different way than if it was on Waltz's personal phone, which he's probably had for 10 or 15 years or whatever he had during his tenure as a member of Congress.
If it's on his government phone, that brings up a whole new set of questions as to how Jeffrey Goldberg was able to be added. Because you can only add certain people that you would have assumed on a government phone that you had pre-populated.
So I'm going to tell you this right now. I don't think I know, to your point. Like, if you went to the president, and I say this as a guy who had to do that, that if you go to the president and say, Mr. President, I screwed up, and I'm going to go fix it because I serve at your pleasure, he is much more understanding than I think if you dig a hole and then have to go back to him.
So I hope to God, for the sake of Mike Walz, who I have the utmost respect for, that this is what happened. Because if you have to go back to the president and say, all right, let me tell you what really happened. You know, he was there. That that's going to get a lot worse. And and here's the just from a PR standpoint.
And I made this point on the morning meeting this morning that I have on my YouTube channel every morning. That's look in a crisis. It will only last about... It's like a fire. After about 48 hours, if there's no new oxygen, it dies. The only way a crisis is perpetuated is if more oxygen comes into the room. And to your point, every time that you speak, you go out there and if your story...
doesn't lock it down further and push oxygen out of the room, but rather lets it in. It perpetuates the crisis. And this is what's happening now. This should have been put to bed last night. But I think for a lot of reasons, they want to go out there and try to show that, you know, here's what's really going on.
And unfortunately, I think they're adding more oxygen to the room than they are taking it out.
And they baited the White House by saying, hey, if it's not we you know, first of all, I think Jeffrey Goldberg's full of crap. He didn't hold back. Like knowing what we see now, I'm like, are you kidding me? This is what you said was so, you know, war plans. Those aren't war plans. He's a liar. And the bottom line is, is that he did it for clicks and sensationalism.
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