Sean Stone

There's different approaches to that same, it's still storytelling, it's just different ways of telling.

But there are people that look at it just as a business. And they're very mercenary. And they just take whatever the gig is. And I think that's the really hard thing to navigate. I mean, Scorsese always said he did one film for himself and one film for Hollywood. It's like a compromise.

But there are people that look at it just as a business. And they're very mercenary. And they just take whatever the gig is. And I think that's the really hard thing to navigate. I mean, Scorsese always said he did one film for himself and one film for Hollywood. It's like a compromise.

Well, no, his dad used to say, right, your dad used to always come out of the movie and say, we could have done it better, right? And so your dad kind of put that into your mind of starting to think about maybe how you would have done a film differently.

Well, no, his dad used to say, right, your dad used to always come out of the movie and say, we could have done it better, right? And so your dad kind of put that into your mind of starting to think about maybe how you would have done a film differently.

83?

83?

There you go.

There you go.

You know about the forces involved in the coup against the Shah in 79, I mean, 78, 79, that time period, right? You saw it. I have my impression. I want to know which one you think. Which direction are you going? Oh, I think it was a coup. I think the U.S. and British wanted to see him go. I agree. I think he was too independent and powerful. I don't know if it came at the moment.

You know about the forces involved in the coup against the Shah in 79, I mean, 78, 79, that time period, right? You saw it. I have my impression. I want to know which one you think. Which direction are you going? Oh, I think it was a coup. I think the U.S. and British wanted to see him go. I agree. I think he was too independent and powerful. I don't know if it came at the moment.

yeah but that doesn't mean that he didn't become too independent and powerful for their taste and i think that i don't know if it happened at the moment they discovered he had cancer which was i think like 75 six they said okay he's weakening we gotta replace this but i would say that the arc of crisis story remember the arc of crisis that huntington and brudzinski were talking about in the late 70s of this idea of this radical islam they were already perpetuating the notion of clash of civilizations at that time

yeah but that doesn't mean that he didn't become too independent and powerful for their taste and i think that i don't know if it happened at the moment they discovered he had cancer which was i think like 75 six they said okay he's weakening we gotta replace this but i would say that the arc of crisis story remember the arc of crisis that huntington and brudzinski were talking about in the late 70s of this idea of this radical islam they were already perpetuating the notion of clash of civilizations at that time

And it's not just saying there's a clash of civilizations between Orthodox Christianity and Islam. They were pushing for these rifts, as in Lebanon, as in, well, not Syria at that point, but in Iran in particular.

And it's not just saying there's a clash of civilizations between Orthodox Christianity and Islam. They were pushing for these rifts, as in Lebanon, as in, well, not Syria at that point, but in Iran in particular.

I think the fact that Khomeini was being protected in the West is very indicative, and that the BBC was broadcasting his messages from all of his messages being broadcast by the BBC in Iran is indicative. Because that's intelligence. That's how it works. It doesn't just work with a guy going in coup. There's different dimensions to it. You've got to prepare the population.

I think the fact that Khomeini was being protected in the West is very indicative, and that the BBC was broadcasting his messages from all of his messages being broadcast by the BBC in Iran is indicative. Because that's intelligence. That's how it works. It doesn't just work with a guy going in coup. There's different dimensions to it. You've got to prepare the population.

You've got to put money towards this. You've got to make sure that you fly the guy in and say, okay, now he's your new leader. I mean, they knew who Khomeini was. You know how crazy it was to send him back, right?

You've got to put money towards this. You've got to make sure that you fly the guy in and say, okay, now he's your new leader. I mean, they knew who Khomeini was. You know how crazy it was to send him back, right?

Well, so 2015, 16, I started working for RT America, right? That was a DC-based group that had Chris Hedges, the Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist. It had Tom Hartman, a leftist progressive guy, Jesse Ventura, Larry King. We had a lot of really interesting journalists, right? And we were a dissident because at that point, as you know, the media is controlled. I've understood this since I was...