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Sebastian Malaby

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
109 total appearances

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Morning Wire
The Man Who Thinks AI Could Surpass Humanity

And just to set the context here, in 2010, when he created DeepMind, AI could not recognize the photograph of a cat.

Morning Wire
The Man Who Thinks AI Could Surpass Humanity

Like AI could do nothing.

Morning Wire
The Man Who Thinks AI Could Surpass Humanity

It was deep, deep AI winter.

Morning Wire
The Man Who Thinks AI Could Surpass Humanity

And it was only in 2012 that anything began to work.

Morning Wire
The Man Who Thinks AI Could Surpass Humanity

And so part of that making it work was Demis and his team at DeepMind

Morning Wire
The Man Who Thinks AI Could Surpass Humanity

building an agent that could play all kinds of different simple video games.

Morning Wire
The Man Who Thinks AI Could Surpass Humanity

There's this suite called the Atari suite, you know, the games like Pong, Breakout, Sequest and so forth.

Morning Wire
The Man Who Thinks AI Could Surpass Humanity

And they built an agent that without being told the rules of these games could figure out how to play it by itself and then figure out strategies for winning and get really strong at them.

Morning Wire
The Man Who Thinks AI Could Surpass Humanity

And so this was an early proof that AI was going to work.

Morning Wire
The Man Who Thinks AI Could Surpass Humanity

So his gaming background really ended up being key in the development of AI.

Morning Wire
The Man Who Thinks AI Could Surpass Humanity

Absolutely.

Morning Wire
The Man Who Thinks AI Could Surpass Humanity

So gaming was important partly because the games developers back in the day realized that if they had AI, they could make the games more compelling and interesting and fun.

Morning Wire
The Man Who Thinks AI Could Surpass Humanity

Because you could have characters in the game that learnt new behaviours based on the feedback they got from the player.

Morning Wire
The Man Who Thinks AI Could Surpass Humanity

So that kind of set the seed of the aspiration to build AI.

Morning Wire
The Man Who Thinks AI Could Surpass Humanity

But then also, games turned out to be a fantastic environment in which to train an AI agent because you could...

Morning Wire
The Man Who Thinks AI Could Surpass Humanity

play the game over and over and over, and the machine could learn by playing many times.

Morning Wire
The Man Who Thinks AI Could Surpass Humanity

And so after that Atari system I told you about, the next thing was to build an AI system that could win the game of Go, this ancient Chinese game.

Morning Wire
The Man Who Thinks AI Could Surpass Humanity

And in 2016, they went to Korea, played this big show match against a Korean champion, and the AI system defeated them.

Morning Wire
The Man Who Thinks AI Could Surpass Humanity

Absolutely.

Morning Wire
The Man Who Thinks AI Could Surpass Humanity

You know, ever since 1997, when the deep blue system that IBM had defeated Garry Kasparov in chess, it's been game over for humans, I'm afraid.