Sebastian Malaby

Yeah, so I think, you know, different leaders in this space have different fundamental motivations.

I think for Elon, he wants to be the biggest, baddest industrialist in the whole world.

And he just wants to, if he sees the next fantastic technology, he wants to do that too.

So space and electric vehicles wasn't enough for him.

I think with Sam Altman, he wants power.

You know, he thought of running for governor of California.

Allegedly, he thought of running for president.

And AI is kind of a way to get to prominence and influence.

And for Demis Hassabis, it's different.

What drives him is scientific curiosity.

He's possessed.

I mean possessed.

by his desire to understand what he calls the fabric of reality.

And he believes this so strongly that he expresses it in quasi-spiritual terms.

He says to me, I see reality staring at me in the face, waiting to be discovered.

And if I can understand it better, I'm getting closer to the intelligent being that may perhaps have created all of the order around us.

Maybe that's God.

Maybe if I can do AI, understand the fabric of reality, I will be approaching God.

Yeah, I think the consciousness word gets into tricky arguments because we don't really have a great definition for what consciousness is.

So I'm going to sidestep that bit of it.