Sen. Bernie Sanders

There are some exceptions, to be sure, but that's kind of where it is.

Democratic Party, as I've mentioned to you, their establishment more or less wants to protect the status quo, and then there are those of us who want to bring about fundamental changes in the economic and political life of the country.

So that's where you are.

Now, starting the third party is something, when I was mayor of the city of Burlington, in a sense, we did.

I took on, I defeated a Democratic mayor.

And so we had Republicans, we had the Democrats.

That must have felt awesome, was it?

It felt pretty good.

A guy who had been mayor for 10 years and nobody thought we could win.

We won by 10 votes.

Oh, yeah.

And by the way, I say that to people, if you think it's hard, you could do it.

We did it.

All right.

That was a long time ago.

And we started kind of unofficially.

We called it Independent Party of sorts.

So it can be done.

And there are strong independents today running for office who have a chance to win.

But you ask about starting a party within today's political climate, it is very hard.