Senator Joe Manchin

If you were serious, you'd have spent 50 million and came 12 times.

So so that's what I'm dealing with.

But a lot of the things he did, I was more in sync with what he was doing because he understood we had to have an all in energy policy.

Well, I still would tell him, I said, Mr. President, we need everything.

We need oil, we need gas, we need coal.

We need to use the technology.

I said, you cannot eliminate your way to a clean environment.

You can innovate it, but you can't eliminate it.

You've got to use technology.

Boom.

So he was more in tune with what I was trying to push through than my Democrat base was and the people I was working with.

And then we have Joe Biden, who I had an awful lot of, oh, man, here's a guy I've worked with for a long time.

And in Joe Biden, when there was a shutdown with Ted Cruz in 2013, I'll never forget this.

It was Biden.

Obama sends Joe Biden to make a deal.

Open this government up, get a deal done.

Joe Biden goes directly to Mitch McConnell, sits down, old buddies and old friends.

They cut a deal.

We opened the government back up.

And I went into caucus the next week, went into caucus with the Democrats.