Senator Kennedy

Right?

Yes, sir.

And Putin was so scared, he almost had to cancel their military parade.

Didn't he?

Well, I'm not sure that's true, but I will take your word for that, sure.

I think what we're going to see, even though Ukraine is not invited to join the alliance yet, eventually they will be because people will wake up and realize that we'll get better the day the Ukrainians are members.

just like we got better the day Sweden and Finland as they joined.

But these are political decisions.

So even though Ukraine is the best military in Europe right now,

It's a political decision, not like meritocracy.

I do believe that Ukraine has become a net security exporter.

The Germans have invited them to come help train their soldiers, which is significant.

And then, of course, the Saudis and others are starting to buy Ukrainian counter UAV technologies.

I really think that in about 10 years, Ukraine is going to be the heart of European defense industry, much like it was the heart of the Soviet Union's defense industry.

I just think that they're so far ahead of everybody.

They just can't get the scale yet.