Senator Mark Kelly

Well, it's good to be on, and thanks for having me on again.

Well, I think we got here because we have a president that has a hard time thinking more than one step ahead.

And these things have second and third order effects.

I also think he's an individual that doesn't listen to people around him.

And in his second term, he is

put folks around him, Secretary of Defense being, I think, at the top of the list, you know, people who really shouldn't be in these jobs.

So you're not getting great advice.

You're also generally not listening to this advice.

In the case of what happened in Iran, I really believe the president thought we'd drop a few bombs here and then the administration would fall in Tehran and we'd have a new government that would be supportive of the United States.

Incredibly optimistic thinking.

And I'm generally an optimist, guys.

I flew a spaceship built by the lowest bidder.

But I'm not that optimistic.

You know, these things tend to go sideways on you.

And he wasn't thinking ahead.

And now we're in a situation with the Strait of Hormuz shut down, 20% of the world's oil going through there.

And he's got no answers and never had a real strategic goal for what this should be.

So, you know, I look at this thing, you know, and I fought over there.

I mean, I spent, you know, 1991, I was in the first Gulf War.

I know how complicated these things are.