Senator Roger Marshall

I know we kind of like to trash some of them, but these are very thoughtful people.

Yeah, I do.

And this is one of my summary thoughts in my head is I don't wanna die on this sort of principle.

Look, I have my values and my sort of principle, but I don't wanna lose the Republic because of it, right?

I live in the real world.

I don't live in an ivory tower.

If you would enshrine the filibuster in the Constitution and tell me the Democrats will never take it away, I would probably vote yes on that.

But that's not the world we live in, as you pointed out.

There's no longer this political middle.

And we just come to a gridlock, unfortunately.

That's what it feels like to me is we've come to this gridlock for a lot of reasons.

And it is just a different day than it was in 1917 when they started these filibuster rules.

Yeah, you know, everyone has their different leadership skills, Vince.

And I would say that John Thune has has done an incredible job.

I think his leadership is more listening publicly.

But every Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, we have lunch together as Republican caucus for an hour and a half.

And that's where the real debate occurs without cameras on.

And unless somebody is leaking information out of there.

And unfortunately, some of my colleagues do that.

What's said in there is supposed to stay in there.