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Serhii Plokhy

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1125 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

You can't justify that as a phenomenon. From that point of view, the celebration of that experience as opposed to looking at that, okay, that happened and we wish that those young men who were idealistic or joined the division for idealistic purposes had better understanding of things or made other choices. But you can certainly celebrate it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

You can't justify that as a phenomenon. From that point of view, the celebration of that experience as opposed to looking at that, okay, that happened and we wish that those young men who were idealistic or joined the division for idealistic purposes had better understanding of things or made other choices. But you can certainly celebrate it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

You can't justify that as a phenomenon. From that point of view, the celebration of that experience as opposed to looking at that, okay, that happened and we wish that those young men who were idealistic or joined the division for idealistic purposes had better understanding of things or made other choices. But you can certainly celebrate it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

And once that happened, that, of course, became a big propaganda item in the current war. We are talking about 10,000 to 20,000 people in the division. And we are talking about two to three million Ukrainians fighting in the Red Army. And again, it's not like Red Army is completely blameless in the way how it behaved in Prussia or in Germany and so on and so forth.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

And once that happened, that, of course, became a big propaganda item in the current war. We are talking about 10,000 to 20,000 people in the division. And we are talking about two to three million Ukrainians fighting in the Red Army. And again, it's not like Red Army is completely blameless in the way how it behaved in Prussia or in Germany and so on and so forth.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

And once that happened, that, of course, became a big propaganda item in the current war. We are talking about 10,000 to 20,000 people in the division. And we are talking about two to three million Ukrainians fighting in the Red Army. And again, it's not like Red Army is completely blameless in the way how it behaved in Prussia or in Germany and so on and so forth.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

But it's basically, it's again, we are going back to the story of Bandera. So there is a period of collaboration and that's what propaganda tries to define him by. or there is a division, Galitsin, by 20,000 people, and somehow it makes irrelevant the experience of 2 to 3 million people.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

But it's basically, it's again, we are going back to the story of Bandera. So there is a period of collaboration and that's what propaganda tries to define him by. or there is a division, Galitsin, by 20,000 people, and somehow it makes irrelevant the experience of 2 to 3 million people.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

But it's basically, it's again, we are going back to the story of Bandera. So there is a period of collaboration and that's what propaganda tries to define him by. or there is a division, Galitsin, by 20,000 people, and somehow it makes irrelevant the experience of 2 to 3 million people.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

I don't have any particular insights, but I would be very much surprised if even one person in the parliament, I mean, the members of the parliament actually knew the whole story. I would be very surprised.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

I don't have any particular insights, but I would be very much surprised if even one person in the parliament, I mean, the members of the parliament actually knew the whole story. I would be very surprised.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

I don't have any particular insights, but I would be very much surprised if even one person in the parliament, I mean, the members of the parliament actually knew the whole story. I would be very surprised.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

This is the narrative that is out there. And it's especially powerful in Russia. It's especially powerful in Russia given that there are really the atmosphere that is created really is not conducive to any independent analysis.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

This is the narrative that is out there. And it's especially powerful in Russia. It's especially powerful in Russia given that there are really the atmosphere that is created really is not conducive to any independent analysis.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

This is the narrative that is out there. And it's especially powerful in Russia. It's especially powerful in Russia given that there are really the atmosphere that is created really is not conducive to any independent analysis.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

That is being done on the academic level, but in terms of the public response and public discourse, the only response that I see is not to focus on the questions raised and put by the propaganda, because you already become victim of that propaganda by definition, but talk about that much broadly. and talk about different aspects of, if it is World War II, about different aspects of World War II.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

That is being done on the academic level, but in terms of the public response and public discourse, the only response that I see is not to focus on the questions raised and put by the propaganda, because you already become victim of that propaganda by definition, but talk about that much broadly. and talk about different aspects of, if it is World War II, about different aspects of World War II.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

That is being done on the academic level, but in terms of the public response and public discourse, the only response that I see is not to focus on the questions raised and put by the propaganda, because you already become victim of that propaganda by definition, but talk about that much broadly. and talk about different aspects of, if it is World War II, about different aspects of World War II.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

If it's about issue of the far right in Ukraine, let's talk about US, let's talk about Russia, let's talk about France, let's compare. That's the only way how you deal with propaganda because propaganda is not necessarily something that is an outright lie. can be just one factor that's taken out of the context and is blown out of proportion. And that is good enough.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

If it's about issue of the far right in Ukraine, let's talk about US, let's talk about Russia, let's talk about France, let's compare. That's the only way how you deal with propaganda because propaganda is not necessarily something that is an outright lie. can be just one factor that's taken out of the context and is blown out of proportion. And that is good enough.