Seth Berkley

You know, smallpox time, they had a woodcut with people having cow's horns growing out of their heads because it came from cows.

And, you know, there's always been misinformation.

And the difference, by the way, between misinformation is what Aunt Holly might say.

say, and not knowing what she's talking about.

And you can correct that with knowledge.

Disinformation is somebody intentionally putting out information.

And that is a big problem now.

But on top of that, we have this politicization where we've had more, for example, Republicans per capita die in the U.S.

during the COVID pandemic because of not getting vaccinated.

And

You know, again, the vaccine shouldn't be political.

It should be based upon your risk and, you know, I'm getting them for everyone.

So this has become a huge problem going forward.

The mRNA story is a crazy one because if you believe fundamentally that the mRNA isn't safe enough, and by the way, we've had now billions and billions of observations because they've been used.

everywhere in the world.

But if you believe that, what we do in science is we do more research.

We do following what's happening there.

And that would be the right solution.

But instead, what we've done is pulled the research.

We've pulled out the efforts that are on that.