Seth Casden

So, you know, just because it hasn't worked to that point isn't any reason to think that it can't be different in the future.

And if you have kind of a fixed mindset, you're not open and you tend to see the world as kind of half empty, the glass half empty.

you know, that's not going to work.

There's a lot of ways to make things work.

But I can say that if you have that kind of dismissive attitude, you know, you're never going to be able to see something that other people haven't done yet.

Well, I'd say one I have over different times.

You know, you get down, you get frustrated.

I, you know, be disingenuous to say I've never felt defeated at different points.

But I think each time, you know, I pause, I gather myself and and I I keep going.

And I think a big part of that is the perspective.

Like, I don't.

I don't have my identity tied to the company, right?

Like the company is its own thing.

I care about it.

I, you know, it's almost like a child at this point, it's 25 years old.

But it's just the company and what I'm trying to do.

And I believe in it.

But there's a, there's a level of separation there.

You know, my identity is who I am and the efforts that I put in.

And