Severin Carrell

And it was John Swinney that first appointed Peter Murrell as the chief executive of the Scottish National Party in 2001.

And when Swinney was asked that question, how he felt personally, he himself was very clearly very close to tears.

He gripped the podium with both his hands.

You could almost see his knuckles turning white.

He looked down and he started stumbling over his words as he tried to control himself.

So I would imagine that for both him and for Sturgeon, they are going through a very similar degree of emotional turmoil, a sense of humiliation, a sense of embarrassment, and also a sense of anger towards him.

I mean, obviously, in some respects, it's too soon to know.

But there was one initial snap poll for the Sunday Times in Scotland by the polling agency Norstat, which published on Sunday.

And that found that Scottish voters as a whole, by a margin of three to one, doubted that Nicola Sturgeon was telling the full truth.

And that Nordstat poll also tested exactly how many people who voted SNP felt.

And they actually found that a very significant number of SNP voters, around 37%, did not accept her account.

Now, it is important to stress that this is before the full Kunzberg interview was broadcast.

But it's certainly a significant blow to the party and to her and to her reputation.

It was very odd.

I mean, some of the items on that list were trinkets, very, very prosaic.

They included coffee pods.

We know that he spent around £85 buying two kilograms of Nescafe Gold Blend coffee powder.

They included toilet rolls.

But what they also included was a £124,000 luxury motorhome, which was parked in the drive next to Peter Murrell's mother's house in Fife.

In there were also two cars, a VW Golf and a Jaguar I-Pace.