Shane Harris

And it was sort of based on a set of presumptions that the Russians would rush up the escalatory ladder, that they might use a tactical nuclear weapon.

It seemed like those anxieties kind of, you know, ebbed over time.

I think when Trump talks about not wanting to start a war with Russia, he has different calculations and different ideas in mind, right?

Which is, you know, I think that he views Russia as almost like a pure power.

And I don't think the U.S.

intelligence community views it that way.

But, you know, he is seemingly like, you know, trying to obviously avoid escalation, but extract from this as well.

And, you know, and wants to be done with Ukraine the way I think he wants to be done with Iran.

You feel that in this audience too.

It starts so early.

I did last night.

I come a day, I come a day early and you're right.

I did not go with you on the bus.

with the chips down at the car park and whatever.

So I took myself to a very nice dinner.

I'll give you one that's been off the air for a little bit, but I hope that it's going to get re-upped, is The Agency, which is the American version of The Bureau, which The Bureau is the best TV show about espionage, in my opinion.

The Agency is really, really good.

And I was told by a reliable source that the CIA offered to help them with technical advice

And the producer said, no, thank you.

Which is interesting to me.