Shanley

And that's the case for his entire company.

But yeah.

This is an issue for them.

It's shaping sort of the dialectic.

And so within this, where is the network state in this?

Well, China's Belt and Road Initiative is creating infrastructure projects and nation-state alliances across Latin America and across Africa for China.

And you see the network state really investing in Latin America and Africa as well.

So

certainly one way to conceptualize this is as the network state is a counter to Belt and Road, and it is part of their Cold War with China, which is playing out across all of these regions.

Yeah, I think, you know, at the end of the day, that's where...

where we need to come back to is like, this is about capitalism.

Like this is about colonialism.

This is about like imperialism.

And like, we fight this at that level, at the level of structural analysis of historical analysis of like full analysis of unflinching analysis.

And that, that that is the only way to get out of this situation that we're in.

That is one of the few things that makes me excited about venture capital, because like here is a lens where we can actually see capitalism in a live, moving, active, dynamic, destructive, very much visible.

You can see this.

You can see it happening.

And that is like such an opportunity.

Yeah.