Shanna H. Swan

Great to see you, Joe.

Happy to be here.

Right.

Right.

Well, it started as a movie on plastic.

And when I met Louis and he filmed me in New York about five years ago also, it wasn't the small study that we have today.

But let me backtrack because I want to tell you something that I never told you but was so important to me.

So you remember when I was here, you said, are you saying that toxins in the environment are threatening the survival of the human race?

And I said, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Yes.

Yes.

And then you said something which changed my life.

You said, why don't people know about this?

Remember that?

I went home and I thought a lot about that question.

And that was what led me to create the program that I have now, Action Science Initiative, which is doing short, impactful, relatively cheap interventions to alert people to the problem and communicating this in a way that I'm hoping

will reach more people than academia where I was speaking before.

Because before I talked to you, I talked to my peers in, you know, academia and the ivory tower, you know, at the meetings where they all went, they read the papers that we all read.

But the general public didn't get this.

So you really were, I have to tell you, thank you.