Shannon Bond

I think that's all true. And I think what's also really important to think about is in the meantime, like Sue, as you said, I mean, he is clearly effectively running this, right? Like he says this email is going to go out. The email goes out. He says people are going to get fired. You know, the agencies say, well, maybe not. But like, I don't know.

He and then Trump also says if people don't respond, they're going to get fired. So, you know, who are you trusting? And I think a lot of the folks that I've been speaking to, the federal workers who are at the receiving end of this are saying, OK, Like, I don't know, but I kind of can't risk my job at this point. I mean, they're also all preparing to be laid off anyway.

He and then Trump also says if people don't respond, they're going to get fired. So, you know, who are you trusting? And I think a lot of the folks that I've been speaking to, the federal workers who are at the receiving end of this are saying, OK, Like, I don't know, but I kind of can't risk my job at this point. I mean, they're also all preparing to be laid off anyway.

He and then Trump also says if people don't respond, they're going to get fired. So, you know, who are you trusting? And I think a lot of the folks that I've been speaking to, the federal workers who are at the receiving end of this are saying, OK, Like, I don't know, but I kind of can't risk my job at this point. I mean, they're also all preparing to be laid off anyway.

But they're saying, you know, at the end of the day, like, yes, there are all these kind of legal questions and that will play out. But it will, as Chris says, take months. And in the meantime, you know, it is effectively Musk calling the shots here.

But they're saying, you know, at the end of the day, like, yes, there are all these kind of legal questions and that will play out. But it will, as Chris says, take months. And in the meantime, you know, it is effectively Musk calling the shots here.

But they're saying, you know, at the end of the day, like, yes, there are all these kind of legal questions and that will play out. But it will, as Chris says, take months. And in the meantime, you know, it is effectively Musk calling the shots here.

Right. So this has come after, you know, actually quite a bit of mystery through a lawsuit where the court was asking the government over and over again because they said, well, you know, Musk is not in charge of the U.S. Doge service, which is part of the office of the president that has been renamed from the U.S. Digital Service. And they were like, OK, great. Who is?

Right. So this has come after, you know, actually quite a bit of mystery through a lawsuit where the court was asking the government over and over again because they said, well, you know, Musk is not in charge of the U.S. Doge service, which is part of the office of the president that has been renamed from the U.S. Digital Service. And they were like, OK, great. Who is?

Right. So this has come after, you know, actually quite a bit of mystery through a lawsuit where the court was asking the government over and over again because they said, well, you know, Musk is not in charge of the U.S. Doge service, which is part of the office of the president that has been renamed from the U.S. Digital Service. And they were like, OK, great. Who is?

And then the government lawyers were like, well, we don't know. We can't tell you. This dragged on for a couple of days, which kind of, you know, pretty unprecedented to just not be able to say who is actually running this. I'm sure judges love that. Yeah. As you can imagine, the judge was not amused.

And then the government lawyers were like, well, we don't know. We can't tell you. This dragged on for a couple of days, which kind of, you know, pretty unprecedented to just not be able to say who is actually running this. I'm sure judges love that. Yeah. As you can imagine, the judge was not amused.

And then the government lawyers were like, well, we don't know. We can't tell you. This dragged on for a couple of days, which kind of, you know, pretty unprecedented to just not be able to say who is actually running this. I'm sure judges love that. Yeah. As you can imagine, the judge was not amused.

So the White House has announced that Amy Gleason is, in fact, the acting administrator of the Doge service. She is somebody who is a veteran of the U.S. digital service. She's a former health care investment executive. You know, we don't know a lot about her. We don't really know a lot about what her actual kind of acting role is.

So the White House has announced that Amy Gleason is, in fact, the acting administrator of the Doge service. She is somebody who is a veteran of the U.S. digital service. She's a former health care investment executive. You know, we don't know a lot about her. We don't really know a lot about what her actual kind of acting role is.

So the White House has announced that Amy Gleason is, in fact, the acting administrator of the Doge service. She is somebody who is a veteran of the U.S. digital service. She's a former health care investment executive. You know, we don't know a lot about her. We don't really know a lot about what her actual kind of acting role is.

You know, what does it mean, again, for her to be the acting administrator when clearly, effectively, you know, Musk is calling the shots here? But there is a name now. And I'm sure that that will, like, raise a whole new set of court challenges over, you know, what are the directives that Musk is issuing? You know, where does that maybe trample on her territory?

You know, what does it mean, again, for her to be the acting administrator when clearly, effectively, you know, Musk is calling the shots here? But there is a name now. And I'm sure that that will, like, raise a whole new set of court challenges over, you know, what are the directives that Musk is issuing? You know, where does that maybe trample on her territory?

You know, what does it mean, again, for her to be the acting administrator when clearly, effectively, you know, Musk is calling the shots here? But there is a name now. And I'm sure that that will, like, raise a whole new set of court challenges over, you know, what are the directives that Musk is issuing? You know, where does that maybe trample on her territory?

But again, like, you know, at the end of the day, the office of the president of the White House, which is what the Doge service is under, you know, is separate from these agencies. Yes. The president can issue executive orders saying – calling on agencies to prepare for reductions in force, which it has done. The White House itself like can't just go and fire people at agencies.