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Shannon Bond

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
200 total appearances

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The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

You know, the actual functionality of these agencies, they do have work to do and they need to make sure that if they are going to trim down, they trim, you know, not trimming people who actually need to be doing some of this work. And I guess I think some of this is about like ego and sort of turf battles over like who ultimately is the decider here.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

You know, the actual functionality of these agencies, they do have work to do and they need to make sure that if they are going to trim down, they trim, you know, not trimming people who actually need to be doing some of this work. And I guess I think some of this is about like ego and sort of turf battles over like who ultimately is the decider here.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

Like, you know, these are all people, many of them, you know, themselves have business backgrounds, right? They're coming in saying like, I want to be in charge here. And like, you know, I'm not going to just like let Elon Musk tell me what to do.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

Like, you know, these are all people, many of them, you know, themselves have business backgrounds, right? They're coming in saying like, I want to be in charge here. And like, you know, I'm not going to just like let Elon Musk tell me what to do.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

Like, you know, these are all people, many of them, you know, themselves have business backgrounds, right? They're coming in saying like, I want to be in charge here. And like, you know, I'm not going to just like let Elon Musk tell me what to do.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

But it's been quite interesting because I think a lot of people were sort of speculating, you know, is it Musk and Trump who are going to have a fallout? Like what's going to happen here? And actually, I think some of the first battles we're seeing is between Musk and these cabinet secretaries. OK, we got to take a quick break, but we'll be right back.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

But it's been quite interesting because I think a lot of people were sort of speculating, you know, is it Musk and Trump who are going to have a fallout? Like what's going to happen here? And actually, I think some of the first battles we're seeing is between Musk and these cabinet secretaries. OK, we got to take a quick break, but we'll be right back.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

But it's been quite interesting because I think a lot of people were sort of speculating, you know, is it Musk and Trump who are going to have a fallout? Like what's going to happen here? And actually, I think some of the first battles we're seeing is between Musk and these cabinet secretaries. OK, we got to take a quick break, but we'll be right back.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

Yeah, that's right. I mean, some of this is like literally the exact playbook, right? And we knew that with the fork in the road email, right, offering for government workers to resign. He sent an email with the same subject line to Twitter employees, again, asking them to resign after he bought that company.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

Yeah, that's right. I mean, some of this is like literally the exact playbook, right? And we knew that with the fork in the road email, right, offering for government workers to resign. He sent an email with the same subject line to Twitter employees, again, asking them to resign after he bought that company.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

Yeah, that's right. I mean, some of this is like literally the exact playbook, right? And we knew that with the fork in the road email, right, offering for government workers to resign. He sent an email with the same subject line to Twitter employees, again, asking them to resign after he bought that company.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

Similarly, this idea of like reporting in five things you accomplished last week, you know, that is something he has implemented at his companies. Even the title of that email, what did you do last week? That is something that he had famously texted to the then CEO of Twitter, like when he was basically making the decision to buy the company and try to kick out current management.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

Similarly, this idea of like reporting in five things you accomplished last week, you know, that is something he has implemented at his companies. Even the title of that email, what did you do last week? That is something that he had famously texted to the then CEO of Twitter, like when he was basically making the decision to buy the company and try to kick out current management.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

Similarly, this idea of like reporting in five things you accomplished last week, you know, that is something he has implemented at his companies. Even the title of that email, what did you do last week? That is something that he had famously texted to the then CEO of Twitter, like when he was basically making the decision to buy the company and try to kick out current management.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

And we're seeing again and again, he's bringing this playbook in from his businesses that, you know, I think to his mind has been successful in the past, right? Yeah. And I think what that tells us very much is โ€“ and we've talked about this before, right? He โ€“ Musk sees the government, you know, as not really any different from a corporation. He's talked about this.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

And we're seeing again and again, he's bringing this playbook in from his businesses that, you know, I think to his mind has been successful in the past, right? Yeah. And I think what that tells us very much is โ€“ and we've talked about this before, right? He โ€“ Musk sees the government, you know, as not really any different from a corporation. He's talked about this.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

And we're seeing again and again, he's bringing this playbook in from his businesses that, you know, I think to his mind has been successful in the past, right? Yeah. And I think what that tells us very much is โ€“ and we've talked about this before, right? He โ€“ Musk sees the government, you know, as not really any different from a corporation. He's talked about this.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

He's called it America Incorporated. And it needs to have a corporate restructuring. And he's very much going about it the way he would, you know, if you were the, you know, pretty independently powerful CEO of a large company where you can say, yeah, I'm going to fire wide swaths of people.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

He's called it America Incorporated. And it needs to have a corporate restructuring. And he's very much going about it the way he would, you know, if you were the, you know, pretty independently powerful CEO of a large company where you can say, yeah, I'm going to fire wide swaths of people.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

He's called it America Incorporated. And it needs to have a corporate restructuring. And he's very much going about it the way he would, you know, if you were the, you know, pretty independently powerful CEO of a large company where you can say, yeah, I'm going to fire wide swaths of people.