Shannon Lee Simmons

I'm fine.

I just feel like what we think is normal is wild and we all need to just stop because it's really hurting us all for real.

When you don't know what you can and can't afford, every single transaction feels terrifying.

Was the $40 pizza going to rob you of retirement security?

Probably not.

But if you don't know that, it's easy to spiral on it.

And then it's easy to be like, oh, I suck at money.

The more you feel like you suck, the more you're going to opt out and think that is not for me.

It's so important.

Exactly.

This is the conversation we all need to be having.

That's right.

I remember my mom painted the cabinets in the kitchen.

We were all like, whoa.

It's

And it was like trading spaces had come out and she was going to try a weird sponge paint.

It was wild for her to do that.

No, I grew up, I'm a suburban 90s kid, 80s, 90s kid, and like no dumpsters, no renovations, like nada.

obviously we have to live within our means.

We can't just spend whatever we want or else it's simple math.